tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post2809463306046605720..comments2023-12-04T02:25:06.026-08:00Comments on Oregon-Mama: Don't Buy What the World is SellingOregon-Mamahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13882027934584270993noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-1189545355290604162014-05-26T22:03:59.435-07:002014-05-26T22:03:59.435-07:00So sorry for the late reply! Thank you for taking ...So sorry for the late reply! Thank you for taking the time to say hi! I'm so glad this post was an encouragement to you, Jennifer! Oregon-Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13882027934584270993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-19005687072634688462014-05-17T00:54:47.404-07:002014-05-17T00:54:47.404-07:00Thank you, Lauren. I want to encourage you to cont...Thank you, Lauren. I want to encourage you to continue seeking the Lord on this. I mentioned to a few other commenters above, the passages Titus 2 (especially verses 4-5) and Proverbs 31. Both passages exhort married women with children to be keepers of their homes. The time we have to influence, train, and enjoy our children is so fleeting and precious. Let us not waste even a moment of it! Blessings to you! Oregon-Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13882027934584270993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-14115533391451713352014-05-17T00:51:57.940-07:002014-05-17T00:51:57.940-07:00Thank you, Susan! I agree. We need to be constantl...Thank you, Susan! I agree. We need to be constantly alert about with what we are filling our minds! I am reminded of a quote from the lovely book "Lies that Women Believe and the Truth that Sets them Free" by Nancy Leigh DeMoss: "If we allow our children to listen to music, attend movies, read books and magazines, and hang out with friends that promote profanity, negative attitudes, illicit sex, rebellion, and violence, we should not be surprised when they adopt the world's philosophies." So true! Oregon-Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13882027934584270993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-76626397867508307082014-05-17T00:45:46.132-07:002014-05-17T00:45:46.132-07:00Hi Revka. Thank you for taking the time to comment...Hi Revka. Thank you for taking the time to comment on this post. I am sorry that you felt my post was hurtful or judgemental. That was in no way my intention. When I write, I seek to encourage other believers and I always aim to do so by "speaking the truth in love" (Eph. 4:15). I do agree with you that God has created all women differently - and that is a beautiful thing! But I also believe that God has expressed through His word a general design and plan for women, especially those that find themselves married with children. In Titus chapter 2, verses 4-5 we read a very specific plan for young women who are married with children:<br /><br /> "and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled."<br /><br />You state that the Proverbs 31 woman "does not stay strictly at home". You are correct. Here are the portions of Proverbs 31 that support that statement:<br /> <br />"she seeks wool and flax,and works with willing hands." (verse 13)<br /><br />"she brings her food from afar." (verse 14)<br /><br />she "provides food for her household" (verse 15)<br /><br />"she considers a field, and buys it." (verse 16)<br /><br />"She perceives that her merchandise is profitable.<br /> Her lamp does not go out at night." (verse 18)<br /><br />"She makes linen garments and sells them;<br /> she delivers sashes to the merchant" (verse 24)<br /><br />"She looks well to the ways of her household<br /> and does not eat the bread of idleness." (verse 27)<br /><br />While you are right in stating that she "does not stay strictly at home," these statements in no way support a "career" outside of the home in the modern sense of a "career". Every passage detailed above relates directly to her caring for her family! Nowhere does it mention above her neglecting her family to pursue her own fulfillment in a career separate from her household duties (nor do I stay strictly at home just because I do not have a career. Like the Proverbs 31 woman I must leave to go grocery shopping, buy clothing,etc.). It only describes her collecting food and clothing, and using her own talent and resources to make garments for her own family and extra to sell in order to gain extra income - but this "work" is done at home "her lamp does not go out at night" (verse 18). <br /><br />I am not reading what someone SAYS about the woman described in Proverbs 31, I have quoted it directly. And it aligns with what is described and instructed in Titus 2. <br /><br />Oregon-Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13882027934584270993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-15191015173470104872014-05-17T00:17:13.872-07:002014-05-17T00:17:13.872-07:00Thank you for your kind words! I am so glad that m...Thank you for your kind words! I am so glad that my post was encouraging to you! God bless you and your family!Oregon-Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13882027934584270993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-45385936131712293412014-05-17T00:16:11.910-07:002014-05-17T00:16:11.910-07:00Hi Laura! Thank you for taking the time to comment...Hi Laura! Thank you for taking the time to comment; I appreciate your questions! I do not want to say that there is "one right way" in the particulars, as every woman/situation is different (for instance widows, single mothers, single unmarried women, etc.) but I do believe God has a general plan for women - and a plan specific to women who find themselves married and with children. In Titus chapter 2, verses 4-5 we read a very specific plan for young women who are married with children: "and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled." The woman described and praised in Proverbs chapter 31 is in accordance with these verses - she is busy at home, and diligently cares for her family. I hope that helps to clarify the matter for you! Oregon-Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13882027934584270993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-82978121780890330112014-05-17T00:07:38.839-07:002014-05-17T00:07:38.839-07:00Right where He wants us is the best place to be! G...Right where He wants us is the best place to be! Good for you for following his leading even though the world says otherwise. You will be blessed!Oregon-Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13882027934584270993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-7272543301455322432014-05-16T21:18:44.310-07:002014-05-16T21:18:44.310-07:00I love this post. I'm glad I'm not alone ...I love this post. I'm glad I'm not alone in not using birth control (my husband and I use Natural Family Planning)and wanting to be a stay at home mom. I'm not sure if I'll be a full time stay at home mom, but I know we'll always have a parent at home with our children instead of sending to daycare.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10565141004412482583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-87894387420105265232014-05-16T12:15:04.940-07:002014-05-16T12:15:04.940-07:00Hello, Oregon Mama. I enjoyed your blog post and a...Hello, Oregon Mama. I enjoyed your blog post and agree that as Christians we are supposed to be called out, set apart, and a peculiar people. I automatically put up a caution flag as to what the world considers the "norm" or "acceptable" choices. I recently had a similar conversation with Christian homeschoolers regarding the books the secular world considers "must reads." When I compare what God wants us to fill our minds with, I just can't see how these books would line up. Praise the Lord for your blog reminding women that being a stay-at-home wife and mother is a wonderful, rewarding, and blessed calling! God bless you.<br />Susan Hall <br />www.aaronshandsministries.comBucketofBlessingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07776149015192994943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-29605824264862767442014-05-16T03:48:13.500-07:002014-05-16T03:48:13.500-07:00I'm glad that you have found fulfillment and j...I'm glad that you have found fulfillment and joy. I have a couple of reservations regarding what your blog post seems to state.<br /><br />1. God did not create one strict and narrow mold for women to fill. If you search the Scriptures, you simply won't find it. I know, because I once believed that if I wanted to be a godly woman, I had to fit into one very specific mold. I finally realized I'd bought into a Christian lie. Well-meaning Christians promoted the lie. But what they stated was still a lie. And I nearly killed myself attempting to live up to that lie.<br /><br />God created humans with an amazing diversity of temperaments and talents to reflect various facets of Himself. And human relationships, speaking specifically about marriages and families, are all unique. What God has called one family to live is not necessarily what He calls another family to do.<br /><br />2. I don't know if you realize how hurtful your words can be. I hope you don't. Because you've effectively told every woman who doesn't make the exact same choices you've made that they are ungodly and less than you simply because they haven't made the choices you've made.<br /><br />Even if you were right and women were supposed to be solely at home to raise as many younguns as possible, do you think God is pleased when you judge harshly single moms, widows, and wives of men who are (for whatever reason) unable to adequately provide for their families that they, those precious women who work so hard for their families?<br /><br />3. You listed resources that changed your views of what you should be doing as a godly woman. If you want to see a godly woman in action, you need look no further than Proverbs 31. And I don't mean reading what someone SAYS about the Proverbs 31 woman. I mean read the passage in the Bible for yourself. She is well-educated and does not stay strictly at home.<br /><br />Again, I'm glad that you feel you are now following God's will for your life. I hope that you will consider the concerns I have voiced. God bless.Revkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02631712931747967154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-12757100644546314472014-05-15T21:20:53.075-07:002014-05-15T21:20:53.075-07:00Hello Oregon-Mama,
I am from Germany and found thi...Hello Oregon-Mama,<br />I am from Germany and found this blog linked im Facebook. We call ourselves a christian family and we are parents of 7 kids. Your post inspired me. I put my career back somehow to see more of my Kids and it feels good. Thank you for your words.Marc Hofsteehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17642653677602931830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-49684394475134402162014-05-15T21:03:16.615-07:002014-05-15T21:03:16.615-07:00Hi there!
I am not a Mama, but I have a lot of f...Hi there! <br /><br />I am not a Mama, but I have a lot of friends who are Mamas! Can I ask a genuine question? <br />I am wondering if you believe these things to be blanket truths for all Mamas? I have friends who are intensely convicted about birth control, and others who are not. I have friends who are SAHM and others who work part time, or even full time. (For a myriad of reasons.) I'm wondering if you believe that these are personal things that the Holy Spirit defines for each woman, or is there one right way? <br /><br />Thanks so much for clarifying!Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12201997158416386176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-82728826301334992822014-05-15T20:03:45.465-07:002014-05-15T20:03:45.465-07:00Thank you for putting this out there. I felt like...Thank you for putting this out there. I felt like you did, until I met my (now Husband). I was in the middle of my Jr. yr of College.... on that path to making something of myself. He wanted to marry right away, I asked him to wait until I finished College. We married the yr I got my degree. He wanted babies right away, I asked him to wait until I got my "career" started....three years after and one miscarriage, we had our son, and in that instant.... I knew, I could NEVER leave him with a stranger and go back to work.... Staying home and sacrificing more than I was comfortable with was all worth it. EVERY MINUTE. A second son and school (for the older one) came and I was going back to work.... I did for about a year and a half and God pulled on my heart everyday to quit and be with my boys AND to homeschool. Public school got to be such a challenge to deal with that I threw in the towel. I am home again, AND homeschooling and its the best decision EVER. The worst part.... "the world and even Christians" look down at me for our choice to follow God's desire for our family. Praise God, that He has shown me, in so many ways, that I am right where he wants me.<br />Amber Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00092389073623145774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-15461751579206383342014-05-15T17:28:16.243-07:002014-05-15T17:28:16.243-07:00Found this through Sherry's Facebook feed. Tha...Found this through Sherry's Facebook feed. Thank you!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13711188492855720200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-67584982595462680352014-05-15T17:26:45.894-07:002014-05-15T17:26:45.894-07:00Thank you! He is still working on my heart too as ...Thank you! He is still working on my heart too as some of these areas are harder to surrender than others (and the world's opinions and messages sometimes crop up (loudly!). May we both stay fixed on Him and may His voice be the loudest in our lives!Oregon-Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13882027934584270993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-41638542593734008162014-05-15T17:25:01.744-07:002014-05-15T17:25:01.744-07:00Thank you for leaving your comment, Lindy! Your la...Thank you for leaving your comment, Lindy! Your last blog post rings so true in my ears. And like you, it took someone else speaking up about these things to open my eyes to the truth as well! It is my prayer that someone else's heart will be softened to the Lord's calling in this area as I share my story. Oregon-Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13882027934584270993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-64896384851673420732014-05-15T17:23:36.840-07:002014-05-15T17:23:36.840-07:00I have a feeling I won't always be greeted wit...I have a feeling I won't always be greeted with such positive feedback when I share views such as these, but if I am truly convicted of these things in my life, I need not fear man! Oregon-Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13882027934584270993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-21202703579704462342014-05-15T17:22:23.945-07:002014-05-15T17:22:23.945-07:00Hi Natalie. Thank you for your comment. Sometimes ...Hi Natalie. Thank you for your comment. Sometimes responses from other Christians are the hardest to handle! With the world it's easy to understand why they think the way they do. When other believers question our decision to let God control this area of our lives, it hits closer to home, and we start to question ourselves, I think. But the only person we need to "impress" is our Lord. In the end, it truly doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. And maybe you being faithful to what He has called you to will open their eyes and reveal the truth to them! Oregon-Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13882027934584270993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-58449406389180671062014-05-15T17:19:58.743-07:002014-05-15T17:19:58.743-07:00Thank God for His truth and his love. Blessings to...Thank God for His truth and his love. Blessings to you and yours...including that sweet little bun in the oven! xxOregon-Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13882027934584270993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-27301149472987125862014-05-15T17:18:19.818-07:002014-05-15T17:18:19.818-07:00Thank YOU! I'm so glad it was encouraging to y...Thank YOU! I'm so glad it was encouraging to you!Oregon-Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13882027934584270993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-8726956564320754712014-05-15T15:53:06.790-07:002014-05-15T15:53:06.790-07:00This is spot on! It took so much prayer and beggi...This is spot on! It took so much prayer and begging God to change my heart on each of the issues you just talked about. I truly don't think I would have changed unless I had asked God to change me. Great post!!!!!sharplittlearrowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01042846171376519005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-7845194906212132842014-05-15T15:34:53.654-07:002014-05-15T15:34:53.654-07:00Wow! Thank you so much for sharing! I'm visi...Wow! Thank you so much for sharing! I'm visiting from Conservative Christian Mom ( http://conservativechristianmom.blogspot.com/2014/01/why-i-went-from-wanting-zero-babies-to.html ) and I have such a similar story...without the triplets! :)<br />Isn't God so good! I'm so very thankful for you for sharing your story as I know it can be controversial. But had someone not taken that step for me, I wouldn't have had my eyes opened either!Lindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01234145471179201718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-53988660780912776192014-05-15T14:47:17.345-07:002014-05-15T14:47:17.345-07:00Thank you for not being afraid to say this.Thank you for not being afraid to say this.homelover2https://www.blogger.com/profile/12723785457477962427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-69110973538176332172014-05-15T14:47:09.817-07:002014-05-15T14:47:09.817-07:00Thank you for not being afraid to say this.Thank you for not being afraid to say this.homelover2https://www.blogger.com/profile/12723785457477962427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7508551453927793580.post-14815234180263440452014-05-15T13:27:21.869-07:002014-05-15T13:27:21.869-07:00Wow. Thank you so much!! I'm having a hard tim...Wow. Thank you so much!! I'm having a hard time explaining the way Christ is leading our family to the rest of the world, and even Christian family members. This post is beautiful, i hope you don't mind if I share it. Thank you so much for the encouragement. God bless youNatalie Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923968786659669132noreply@blogger.com